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I dont get the whole no alcohol and breast...

katie_wallsy's Photo katie_wallsy 19 Oct 2012

Ok there is something I do not understand. All experts and web sites say not to have any alcohol in your bloodstream when you breastfeed because the amount of alcohol in your milk is exactly the same as in your blood. But here is what I dont understand.

After 10 drinks over a few hours your blood alcohol level would be...say...around 0.15%. That means your alcohol level in your milk would be 0.15%, which is 33 times less alcohol then in beer and about 60 times less than wine. Now lets say my baby drinks 100ml then thats the equivalent of about 3ml of beer. Did you hear that 3ml!!

Now of course babies are small so weigh 20 times less than I do so in adult terms thats 60ml of beer. And what would 60ml of beer do to an adult...(or 30ml of wine)?? NOTHING!

So my question is obvious...what am I missing??
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ubermum's Photo ubermum 19 Oct 2012

Oh this is going to be good.
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follies's Photo follies 19 Oct 2012

At least they can do the maths.
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#YKG's Photo #YKG 19 Oct 2012

Can do maths but biology doesn't appear to be strongest subject

I'll bring the wine
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jules77's Photo jules77 19 Oct 2012

I would be rendered incapable of putting babe to boob after 10 drinks....
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CallMeFeral's Photo CallMeFeral 19 Oct 2012

I like your logic OP.

But this is going to be a massacre. Get your flamesuit on.
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bluebirdbaby's Photo bluebirdbaby 19 Oct 2012

Indeed... I wait with baited breath!  cool.gif

QUOTE (ubermum @ 19/10/2012, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh this is going to be good.

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HRH Countrymel's Photo HRH Countrymel 19 Oct 2012

I think it is like any other drinking guideline.  They set it to cope with the lowest common denominator - and BTW if you had a blood alcohol reading of .15 you would be VERY, VERY ill... and unlikely to be able to safely hold let alone feed a baby.

0.4% is fatal..

Of course having a glass of wine and then feeding a baby a few hours later isn't going to kill them, or make the slightest visible difference... but because there are morons out there who can't tell the difference between a glass of wine with a meal and 26 jelly shots  or an 'all you can drink' margarita night the advice is 0.
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Liv_DrSperm_sh's Photo Liv_DrSperm_sh 19 Oct 2012

I'm taking bets on how many pages this will get to....

I'm guessing 50.
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liveworkplay's Photo liveworkplay 19 Oct 2012

Maybe do some more googling. To "strengthen" your argument even more, the % alcohol of breastmilk does not equal the % blood alcohol, its lower.

But......I don't have the mental strength (or desire) to actually form a reply as somehow I don't think any scientific explanation is going to matter to you.
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Halp's Photo Halp 19 Oct 2012

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Edited by Halp, 21 October 2012 - 07:08 PM.
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*LucyE*'s Photo *LucyE* 19 Oct 2012

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Damn, just as I have to get off the computer for a few hours.  Hope it's not locked before I get back.
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katie_wallsy's Photo katie_wallsy 19 Oct 2012

Everyone calm down...I am not saying its ok to drink and I have never drunk and breastfed. I am asking what part of the logic in my post is wrong.
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follies's Photo follies 19 Oct 2012

Let's turn this into a game. If baby A drank off the boob of a woman who drank 10 shots for 30 minutes and baby B drank off the boob of a woman who drank 5 shots for an hour, how long until this gets shut down?
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bakesgirls's Photo bakesgirls 19 Oct 2012

ddoh.gif  Oh Lordy...
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Arls01's Photo Arls01 19 Oct 2012

Oh brilliant, I usually never get here early for these threads... Always read them the next day or something when all the flaming is over. I think I have some wine in the fridge, am off to pour a glass... be right back!
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purplekitty's Photo purplekitty 19 Oct 2012

Now I know it's Friday.
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Logging out's Photo Logging out 19 Oct 2012

rolleyes.gif this is going to be interesting..
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cabbagepatch's Photo cabbagepatch 19 Oct 2012

I love that everyone is off to get a glass of wine!! Hope you don't plan on breastfeeding while you drink laughing2.gif
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Let-it-go's Photo Let-it-go 19 Oct 2012

Awesome thread......

I find my newborns sleep much better after I have breastfeed them while driving home from the pub after drinking 6 beers, 5 redbulls & vodka, 3 jelly shots and finally shotgun a can of bundy & coke.  cool.gif
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Cranky Old Woman's Photo Cranky Old Woman 19 Oct 2012

No doubt there will be some who choose to cut out the middleman (or woman in this case) completely and fill their babies' bottles with grog.
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namie's Photo namie 19 Oct 2012

QUOTE (katie_wallsy @ 19/10/2012, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Everyone calm down...I am not saying its ok to drink and I have never drunk and breastfed. I am asking what part of the logic in my post is wrong.

I'll answer. What's wrong is that babies shouldn't have alcohol. Period. As in none. Not even 3ml (was this the amount your logic decreed they'd be getting?).

In simple terms, alcohol is not good for developing brains which is why it's also recommended that teenagers not drink it.
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Guest_bottle~rocket_* 19 Oct 2012

I don't know which websites you are referring to, but most reputable sources say it is OK to drink in small amounts while breastfeeding.  

As well as the ABA page linked by a PP posted, there are these:

http://kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed/lifestyle/alcohol/

http://www.lalecheleague.org/faq/alcohol.html

Edited by bottle~rocket, 19 October 2012 - 01:51 PM.
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HRH Countrymel's Photo HRH Countrymel 19 Oct 2012

It isn't going to be interesting if all people post is one line insults or one line 'popcorn/this'll be interesting/you are new here' posts though...

ENGAGE EB..... engage with the topic.


I'm off to find a photo of my Mum (district supervisor and life member of the ABA) holding a glass of sherry in one hand with baby me attached to the breast and nestled in the crook of her other arm!

That should add some spice to proceedings!
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